Comments on: Managing Layout in the Absence of Layout Management http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/ Mike works on the MATLAB Desktop team Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:36:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: John Smith http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-7106 John Smith Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:54:23 +0000 http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-7106 Thank you guys for the guide. I'm about to use Matlab and that helped me a lot. Thank you guys for the guide.
I’m about to use Matlab and that helped me a lot.

]]> By: Ben10 games http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-7057 Ben10 games Tue, 25 May 2010 13:02:28 +0000 http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-7057 That you for the guide, resizing gui is a great feature. That you for the guide, resizing gui is a great feature.

]]> By: Vincent http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-6336 Vincent Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:56:36 +0000 http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-6336 It would seem that 90% of the problems of gui-scalings would disappear if you could define element placements in a mixed units way. For example stating that a button row should be positioned in the top of the window be 30 pixels tall (100% screen size -width in pixels), and then that a figure below should take up the rest of the screen (100%- the 30 pixels) In most cases the really ugly scaling stuff comes from the fact that buttons should idealy remain the same size, with their position scaling ( to keep them aligned along other elements, like window sides or figure axeslines). However their position dont really "scale" if you use pixel units, and if you use normalized units they just end up taking up huge amounts of space or overlapping other elements when you scale the window. It would seem that 90% of the problems of gui-scalings would disappear if you could define element placements in a mixed units way. For example stating that a button row should be positioned in the top of the window be 30 pixels tall (100% screen size -width in pixels), and then that a figure below should take up the rest of the screen (100%- the 30 pixels)

In most cases the really ugly scaling stuff comes from the fact that buttons should idealy remain the same size, with their position scaling ( to keep them aligned along other elements, like window sides or figure axeslines).
However their position dont really “scale” if you use pixel units, and if you use normalized units they just end up taking up huge amounts of space or overlapping other elements when you scale the window.

]]> By: Kailup Tan http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-5177 Kailup Tan Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:15:39 +0000 http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-5177 Hi, I am a BIG FAN of GUI/GUIDE since I was in University, while I was using the command line to create the GUI, and earn my first 'A' in my control subject as I was using the GUI while others not. :) Greet to see my application has been enhanced to make the figure and objects sizable, however, it will be great to have the "autoscale" feature in the figure properties inspector so we could just check and all the objects would be resized automatically :) (Not too sure it could be done in 2008a?) Another thing that I wish to see is the better integration with ActiveX objects. I had design a GUI course back in 2002-03 which include the activeX in the GUI, and since then not much improvement on this. (At least when dragging the ActiveX in, it should show a preview of the object rather than a BIG X) :) Again, I might be a bit outdated, do correct me if my points are already patched in new version. Thanks. Regards, Chin Luh Hi,

I am a BIG FAN of GUI/GUIDE since I was in University, while I was using the command line to create the GUI, and earn my first ‘A’ in my control subject as I was using the GUI while others not. :)

Greet to see my application has been enhanced to make the figure and objects sizable, however, it will be great to have the “autoscale” feature in the figure properties inspector so we could just check and all the objects would be resized automatically :) (Not too sure it could be done in 2008a?)

Another thing that I wish to see is the better integration with ActiveX objects. I had design a GUI course back in 2002-03 which include the activeX in the GUI, and since then not much improvement on this. (At least when dragging the ActiveX in, it should show a preview of the object rather than a BIG X) :)

Again, I might be a bit outdated, do correct me if my points are already patched in new version.

Thanks.

Regards,
Chin Luh

]]> By: Ken http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-3018 Ken Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:30:53 +0000 http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-3018 Hi Andrew, MATLAB UI components don't really offer the ability to set a minimum size, like you can on a JComponent in Java. There's also no out of the box layout management, so UI's are typically pretty static. You can implement your own layout managers similarly to what Brian has described, which could give certain components or regions some minimum size, but it's not built in. So I think the answer to your question is that there really is no parallel to UI component attribute restriction in MATLAB. -Ken Hi Andrew,

MATLAB UI components don’t really offer the ability to set a minimum size, like you can on a JComponent in Java. There’s also no out of the box layout management, so UI’s are typically pretty static. You can implement your own layout managers similarly to what Brian has described, which could give certain components or regions some minimum size, but it’s not built in.

So I think the answer to your question is that there really is no parallel to UI component attribute restriction in MATLAB.

-Ken

]]> By: Andrew Catellier http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-3017 Andrew Catellier Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:02:46 +0000 http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-3017 Resizable GUIs are a great idea, but I can see the need for a limit in size, especially when talking about docking into the MATLAB desktop. Many UI's in the "real world" have minimum sizes in order to prevent widgets (such as buttions, form fields, etc.) from overlapping with other window content. Is there any parallel in MATLAB? Andrew Resizable GUIs are a great idea, but I can see the need for a limit in size, especially when talking about docking into the MATLAB desktop. Many UI’s in the “real world” have minimum sizes in order to prevent widgets (such as buttions, form fields, etc.) from overlapping with other window content. Is there any parallel in MATLAB?

Andrew

]]> By: Brian http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-2094 Brian Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:41:57 +0000 http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-2094 Thanks for the kind words, turtie! I'm glad to have helped! When thinking about the challenge, remember that the uipanel itself also has a ResizeFcn property, which you can use to manage the complexity of the task by thinking about pieces individually! Thanks for the kind words, turtie! I’m glad to have helped! When thinking about the challenge, remember that the uipanel itself also has a ResizeFcn property, which you can use to manage the complexity of the task by thinking about pieces individually!

]]> By: turtie http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-2046 turtie Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:41:25 +0000 http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2007/12/17/managing-layout-in-the-absence-of-layout-management/#comment-2046 Great guide on resizing GUIs! It'll be extremely helpful for my GUI design. Not sure about your challenge, but I will definitely give it a try. Hopefully you post the answer in a future post. Great guide on resizing GUIs! It’ll be extremely helpful for my GUI design. Not sure about your challenge, but I will definitely give it a try. Hopefully you post the answer in a future post.

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