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	<title>Comments on: Ready, Set, Action!</title>
	<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/</link>
	<description>Ken &#38; Mike work on the MATLAB Desktop team</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Han Geerligs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6096</link>
		<dc:creator>Han Geerligs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6096</guid>
		<description>Hello Mike,

Thanks for your note on customisation, it really helps.

I observed that the Group By option changes depending upon which splitter is right clicked. E.g. when right clicking on "Name" only "Group By Name" can be selected, and when right clicking on "Date" only "Group By Date Modified" can be selected (or grouping can be stopped).

My suggestion is to make all groupings selectable using the right click on any splitter (as in Outlook).

The advantage is that the menu is more similar, and not depending on which splitter is right-clicked.

kind regards, Han</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mike,</p>
<p>Thanks for your note on customisation, it really helps.</p>
<p>I observed that the Group By option changes depending upon which splitter is right clicked. E.g. when right clicking on &#8220;Name&#8221; only &#8220;Group By Name&#8221; can be selected, and when right clicking on &#8220;Date&#8221; only &#8220;Group By Date Modified&#8221; can be selected (or grouping can be stopped).</p>
<p>My suggestion is to make all groupings selectable using the right click on any splitter (as in Outlook).</p>
<p>The advantage is that the menu is more similar, and not depending on which splitter is right-clicked.</p>
<p>kind regards, Han</p>
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		<title>By: George Kapodistrias</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6094</link>
		<dc:creator>George Kapodistrias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6094</guid>
		<description>I agree with Tom and Daniel. There are toolbars 'everywhere' and they just add to clatter. I have customized that particular 'action' button out of the toolbar. It does not offer any additional useful functionality.

As long as you give me the opportunity to customize my desktop and turn off icons and windows I do not want to see I am OK. However, you might want to consider a single toolbar that adjusts the visible icons depending on which window is active (e.g. editor vs command window). Customizable of course!

gk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Tom and Daniel. There are toolbars &#8216;everywhere&#8217; and they just add to clatter. I have customized that particular &#8216;action&#8217; button out of the toolbar. It does not offer any additional useful functionality.</p>
<p>As long as you give me the opportunity to customize my desktop and turn off icons and windows I do not want to see I am OK. However, you might want to consider a single toolbar that adjusts the visible icons depending on which window is active (e.g. editor vs command window). Customizable of course!</p>
<p>gk.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6093</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6093</guid>
		<description>Han,

 Thank you for those comments. You should be able to select "Group By" by clicking on the Name column header. If not, please contact technical support and let them know your system details. 

As for the [&lt;i&gt;edit:&lt;/i&gt; up one folder] button, take a look at my previous comment here. I've added it back in with the customize toolbar setting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Han,</p>
<p> Thank you for those comments. You should be able to select &#8220;Group By&#8221; by clicking on the Name column header. If not, please contact technical support and let them know your system details. </p>
<p>As for the [<i>edit:</i> up one folder] button, take a look at my previous comment here. I&#8217;ve added it back in with the customize toolbar setting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6092</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6092</guid>
		<description>Daniel and Tom,

 You can control the number of icons on the top of the bar. For instance, my Current Directory toolbar looks like: &lt;img src="http://blogs.mathworks.com/images/desktop/lori_tavis_action_button/mikesbar.png"/&gt;

I've added back in the "up one level" button. But you could remove all the buttons, if you desire:
&lt;a href="http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2008/11/24/customize-your-current-directory-toolbar/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2008/11/24/customize-your-current-directory-toolbar/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel and Tom,</p>
<p> You can control the number of icons on the top of the bar. For instance, my Current Directory toolbar looks like: <img src="http://blogs.mathworks.com/images/desktop/lori_tavis_action_button/mikesbar.png"/></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve added back in the &#8220;up one level&#8221; button. But you could remove all the buttons, if you desire:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2008/11/24/customize-your-current-directory-toolbar/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2008/11/24/customize-your-current-directory-toolbar/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Clark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6091</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6091</guid>
		<description>Yeah, I'm afraid it seems like clutter for me. 

For example, I'll always right click for a new file, not just because I've always done it that way in ML... but because that's the way it's done for most Operating Systems too. Where people have a comfortable habit of doing something, why attempt to replace it with an unfamiliar action, which actually requires an additional click?

What's more, the greater the number of icons you have up there, the more impenetrable ML will seem to a novice user. Clear up!

Cheers,

Tom Clark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m afraid it seems like clutter for me. </p>
<p>For example, I&#8217;ll always right click for a new file, not just because I&#8217;ve always done it that way in ML&#8230; but because that&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s done for most Operating Systems too. Where people have a comfortable habit of doing something, why attempt to replace it with an unfamiliar action, which actually requires an additional click?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, the greater the number of icons you have up there, the more impenetrable ML will seem to a novice user. Clear up!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Tom Clark</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Armyr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6084</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Armyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6084</guid>
		<description>I hadn't even noticed that button, and now that I notice it, I see nothing it does that right-clicking in the appropriate place doesn't do. 

So I am sorry, but now it resides in the gray limbo. There it can keep company with the other toolbars that used to take up my valuble screen space without giving added value.


--DA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t even noticed that button, and now that I notice it, I see nothing it does that right-clicking in the appropriate place doesn&#8217;t do. </p>
<p>So I am sorry, but now it resides in the gray limbo. There it can keep company with the other toolbars that used to take up my valuble screen space without giving added value.</p>
<p>&#8211;DA</p>
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		<title>By: Han Geerligs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6083</link>
		<dc:creator>Han Geerligs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.mathworks.com/desktop/2009/02/09/ready-set-action/#comment-6083</guid>
		<description>Hi Lori,

thanks for asking feedback on the Action button.

When looking at the Icon of the Action button I was expecting a settings menu rather than an Action menu. Also the little arrow down glyph doesn't add anything for me: it's part of the icon rather than a separate option.

I expect Actions to be presented when using the right mouse button. So when right clicking in the breadcrumb-navigator I hoped to see the relevant action (as in Eclipse)

The "Group by" option should also be available with right-click on the 'name'-splitter.

maybe offtopic: in R2008B/PR2009A only the back button is implemented and not the up-directory button as it was in R2008A. I am missing that one.

kind regards, Han</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lori,</p>
<p>thanks for asking feedback on the Action button.</p>
<p>When looking at the Icon of the Action button I was expecting a settings menu rather than an Action menu. Also the little arrow down glyph doesn&#8217;t add anything for me: it&#8217;s part of the icon rather than a separate option.</p>
<p>I expect Actions to be presented when using the right mouse button. So when right clicking in the breadcrumb-navigator I hoped to see the relevant action (as in Eclipse)</p>
<p>The &#8220;Group by&#8221; option should also be available with right-click on the &#8216;name&#8217;-splitter.</p>
<p>maybe offtopic: in R2008B/PR2009A only the back button is implemented and not the up-directory button as it was in R2008A. I am missing that one.</p>
<p>kind regards, Han</p>
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