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	<title>Comments on: Cell segmentation</title>
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	<description>Steve Eddins manages the Image &#38; Geospatial development team at The MathWorks and coauthored Digital Image Processing Using MATLAB. He writes here about image processing concepts, algorithm implementations, and MATLAB.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/steve/2006/06/02/cell-segmentation/#comment-21574</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dexter&#8212;You might try using &lt;tt&gt;bwareaopen&lt;/tt&gt; to remove the small &quot;noise&quot; objects detected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dexter&mdash;You might try using <tt>bwareaopen</tt> to remove the small &#8220;noise&#8221; objects detected.</p>
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		<title>By: deXter Holland</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/steve/2006/06/02/cell-segmentation/#comment-21572</link>
		<dc:creator>deXter Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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hi all! i need to do cell detection on the image above (identify the presence of those &#039;big&#039; cells). my main problem is the background (noise), i couldn&#039;t remove them properly, so i couldn&#039;t do the usual segmentation easily. for now i&#039;m processing it on grayscale, based on the materials i&#039;m reading.
any suggestion?</description>
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<p>hi all! i need to do cell detection on the image above (identify the presence of those &#8216;big&#8217; cells). my main problem is the background (noise), i couldn&#8217;t remove them properly, so i couldn&#8217;t do the usual segmentation easily. for now i&#8217;m processing it on grayscale, based on the materials i&#8217;m reading.<br />
any suggestion?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/steve/2006/06/02/cell-segmentation/#comment-21555</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francesco&#8212;It&#039;s your algorithm that doesn&#039;t recognize that there are many regions.  It&#039;s hard to say for sure without looking at your image, but I&#039;m not sure I understand why all your steps make sense.  You might want to take a look at my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mathworks.com/company/newsletters/news_notes/win02/watershed.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;News &amp; Notes article&lt;/a&gt; about watershed-based segmentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francesco&mdash;It&#8217;s your algorithm that doesn&#8217;t recognize that there are many regions.  It&#8217;s hard to say for sure without looking at your image, but I&#8217;m not sure I understand why all your steps make sense.  You might want to take a look at my <a href="http://www.mathworks.com/company/newsletters/news_notes/win02/watershed.html" rel="nofollow">News &#038; Notes article</a> about watershed-based segmentation.</p>
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		<title>By: Francesco</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/steve/2006/06/02/cell-segmentation/#comment-21549</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I=imread(&#039;Open cells aluminium foam.tif&#039;);
thresh=40;
BW=(I&gt;40);
D=bwdist(I1,&#039;euclidean&#039;);
D1=imcomplement(D1);
H=imhmin(D1,13,6);
L=watershed(H);
d=imcomplement(BW)&amp;L;
Now i have reconstructed my open cell foam but if i want to make a geometrical analysis it seems to be that the image has only one region instead of hundreds,because matlab doesn&#039;t recognize that there are many regions.
How i can make to solve this problem??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I=imread(&#8216;Open cells aluminium foam.tif&#8217;);<br />
thresh=40;<br />
BW=(I&gt;40);<br />
D=bwdist(I1,&#8217;euclidean&#8217;);<br />
D1=imcomplement(D1);<br />
H=imhmin(D1,13,6);<br />
L=watershed(H);<br />
d=imcomplement(BW)&#038;L;<br />
Now i have reconstructed my open cell foam but if i want to make a geometrical analysis it seems to be that the image has only one region instead of hundreds,because matlab doesn&#8217;t recognize that there are many regions.<br />
How i can make to solve this problem??</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/steve/2006/06/02/cell-segmentation/#comment-21541</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francesco&#8212;This blog post has some example code.  You might also want to look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mathworks.com/products/image/demos.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;watershed segmentation demo&lt;/a&gt; in the Image Processing Toolbox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francesco&mdash;This blog post has some example code.  You might also want to look at the <a href="http://www.mathworks.com/products/image/demos.html" rel="nofollow">watershed segmentation demo</a> in the Image Processing Toolbox.</p>
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		<title>By: Francesco</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/steve/2006/06/02/cell-segmentation/#comment-21537</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodmorning,
in my engineering degree study i have to make a microstructural characterization of open cell aluminium foams.
After i have done a watershed transform on my 2D slice i have to do a masking of the complement of the binary starting image and the watershed one to reduce the oversegmentation but i don&#039;t know how to make this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodmorning,<br />
in my engineering degree study i have to make a microstructural characterization of open cell aluminium foams.<br />
After i have done a watershed transform on my 2D slice i have to do a masking of the complement of the binary starting image and the watershed one to reduce the oversegmentation but i don&#8217;t know how to make this.</p>
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		<title>By: Pratyusha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/steve/2006/06/02/cell-segmentation/#comment-21466</link>
		<dc:creator>Pratyusha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for letting me know. I will try to use a kalman filter for it, or color code the image to highlight the tumor areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for letting me know. I will try to use a kalman filter for it, or color code the image to highlight the tumor areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/steve/2006/06/02/cell-segmentation/#comment-21441</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pratyusha&#8212;I don&#039;t have any suggestions for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pratyusha&mdash;I don&#8217;t have any suggestions for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Pratyusha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/steve/2006/06/02/cell-segmentation/#comment-21440</link>
		<dc:creator>Pratyusha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Steve,
I have a similar problem with segmentation of tumors in an Ultrasound image.
I use a .jpg image file and edge detection techniques, but most of the times it does not work, as the background of an US image is not that clear, i.e., there is a very smooth gradient. I could send/upload some of the files (Images) so you can have a look at them. 
Please suggest a suitable edge detection technique for these kind of images.

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Steve,<br />
I have a similar problem with segmentation of tumors in an Ultrasound image.<br />
I use a .jpg image file and edge detection techniques, but most of the times it does not work, as the background of an US image is not that clear, i.e., there is a very smooth gradient. I could send/upload some of the files (Images) so you can have a look at them.<br />
Please suggest a suitable edge detection technique for these kind of images.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.mathworks.com/steve/2006/06/02/cell-segmentation/#comment-21436</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ragu&#8212;In my comment #105, I gave a link to my News &amp; Notes article on the watershed transform, which explains the basic concepts of using the transform for segmentation.  I encourage you to take a look at it.  Here&#039;s an important sentence: &quot;The key behind using the watershed transform for segmentation is this: Change your image into another image whose catchment basins are the objects you want to identify.&quot; Often, the original grayscale image does not have the property that its catchment basins correspond to the objects you are trying to segment. Markers, minima imposition, computing gradient magnitudes, etc., are all techniques for making that happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ragu&mdash;In my comment #105, I gave a link to my News &#038; Notes article on the watershed transform, which explains the basic concepts of using the transform for segmentation.  I encourage you to take a look at it.  Here&#8217;s an important sentence: &#8220;The key behind using the watershed transform for segmentation is this: Change your image into another image whose catchment basins are the objects you want to identify.&#8221; Often, the original grayscale image does not have the property that its catchment basins correspond to the objects you are trying to segment. Markers, minima imposition, computing gradient magnitudes, etc., are all techniques for making that happen.</p>
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