Sometimes you want something to update in MATLAB on a regular schedule. Timer objects can do that for you. We first introduced this for test and measurement applications, but it has since been moved into base MATLAB.
In this simple example, we will create a timer object and have it fire a callback every second to output a random number to the command line.
There are a lot more useful things to do with timer objects, of course. What have you done with them? [Comment here]
As one gets to more esoteric bits, try…catch doesn’t always work. For example, some things fail by popping up a dialog for the user to asknowledge rather than Matlab’s error command.
So when I want error trapping for something that won’t run interactively, I guess how long it should take and use a timer to exit out if it takes too long.
This way if I queue 10 things up for the evening and number 3 stalls waiting for user input, it eventually gets killed and the other 9 finish.
Hello Doug,
I love your blog and I find it extremely useful.
I have a question.
Is it possible to run a timer object in the background and saving data in the background as well?
for example I was thinking to save some live data to create a time series from the Yahoo finance while running some other codes on the same time.
Thanks,
Tal
That is exactly the kind of thing timers were first introduced for. Rather than pulling data from a datafeed on the web, they were pulling data from instruments and DAQ boards.
Timers have since been put into the core of MATLAB. You can use them to run any function you want.
Doug,
I discovered timer objects about a month ago as I was looking for a way to automatically query a piece of hardware using UDP. In my application, a timer is used to regularly request system status and parse the reply. It did the trick nicely.
Once again I have to say this is blog is great. I would like to use timers for Interrupt Requests. It would be a great way to simulate microcontrollers in Matlab, so students could see what’s going on on a GUI (since most GUI development software won’t work with real IRQ in win xp). The question is: if I create several timers, once I’m doing routine of 1 timer I would like to stop the timers, but after that I would like to resume. Are the values of the timers reset after stop(a)?
I’ve been enjoying your new “Advanced MATLAB” posts. Keep up the good work!
I’m using a couple of timers in a GUI application that seems to work pretty well. My application is that I have a set of ODEs that model a process, and a complex control algorithm. The model integrates forward one second, then passes the output to the control algorithm, then back to the model with the results from the controller. This is on a timer that lets me control the frequency with which the model executes, and if the timer has a period of 1s then it runs in real time. At a period of 0.01 it’s 100x real time, etc.
I have a second timer that reads the state of the simulation and updates the GUI with new graphs and indicators of the status of the simulation. By having two timers I can decouple running the simulation from updating the display (an expensive operation). I can also use the GUI to speed up the simulation to facilitate testing.
This is my first time using timers, but I’m pretty happy with how it’s working out. I’m not sure if there’s a better way to do it, but it gets the job done. It took me quite a bit of digging to figure out a way to make a GUI that lets me interact with a running process, so hopefully this post will inspire others. Is there a better way to allow users to interact with a running simulation that using timer objects?
Doug,
One question about the timers: What determines the workspace that the timerfunction runs in? Is it like creating an anonymous function, where the inputs to the timer function are fixed when it is created, or is there a way to allow the timer function to update its inputs? For example, suppose I want to replace the waitbar with my own one. Instead of calling the Mywaitbar function every time through my for loop, I want to create a timer inside of Mywaitbar whose timer function is to check the calling function every 0.1 seconds and retrieve the value. How would I go about setting something like that up? Do I use an evalin inside of Mywaitbar? Is it even possible?
There are stopFcnCallbacks that are run when you stop a timer. With clever use of these you should be able to accomplish what you are interested in doing. I think you are effectively trying to create a pause(timer) function.
It almost sounds to me like you would be better off using Simulink for the simulation you are running. With all of the time dependencies you are working with Simulink and its constant marching of time would probably be better.
The callback occurs a few times (I say “a few” because it
could be 1, 5 or 10034, there does not seem to be any reason
to it), and the appears to get “lost”. When I query the
timer, it claims that is is running, however it has stopped
callback execution. I do a lot of process control and have
used timers quite extensively in earlier versions of MATLAB
and have never had this problem. Any ideas?
Note: When I change the number of maximum number of computational threads to 1, the timer callback seems to behave just fine…I however need to use the multiple threads in my application.”
I am confused about TimerFcn. I am trying to GUI that can refresh data every second but i didn’t understand how to implement subroutine when timerFcn execute. Where and how i should write that?
Like your blog! Reading this post I figured it should be possible to use a timer to monitor the size of file (with the purpose of updating a progress bar).
And indeed it works fine, except…
When I am monitoring a file that is being retrieved through ‘mget’ (== java ‘retrieveFile’).
It seems the java call halts all matlab timers… Can that be true?
I’ve used them for error catching.
As one gets to more esoteric bits, try…catch doesn’t always work. For example, some things fail by popping up a dialog for the user to asknowledge rather than Matlab’s error command.
So when I want error trapping for something that won’t run interactively, I guess how long it should take and use a timer to exit out if it takes too long.
This way if I queue 10 things up for the evening and number 3 stalls waiting for user input, it eventually gets killed and the other 9 finish.
Hello Doug,
I love your blog and I find it extremely useful.
I have a question.
Is it possible to run a timer object in the background and saving data in the background as well?
for example I was thinking to save some live data to create a time series from the Yahoo finance while running some other codes on the same time.
Thanks,
Tal
Tal,
That is exactly the kind of thing timers were first introduced for. Rather than pulling data from a datafeed on the web, they were pulling data from instruments and DAQ boards.
Timers have since been put into the core of MATLAB. You can use them to run any function you want.
Doug
Doug,
I discovered timer objects about a month ago as I was looking for a way to automatically query a piece of hardware using UDP. In my application, a timer is used to regularly request system status and parse the reply. It did the trick nicely.
Dan
Dear Doug,
Once again I have to say this is blog is great. I would like to use timers for Interrupt Requests. It would be a great way to simulate microcontrollers in Matlab, so students could see what’s going on on a GUI (since most GUI development software won’t work with real IRQ in win xp). The question is: if I create several timers, once I’m doing routine of 1 timer I would like to stop the timers, but after that I would like to resume. Are the values of the timers reset after stop(a)?
Thanks,
Julio
I’ve been enjoying your new “Advanced MATLAB” posts. Keep up the good work!
I’m using a couple of timers in a GUI application that seems to work pretty well. My application is that I have a set of ODEs that model a process, and a complex control algorithm. The model integrates forward one second, then passes the output to the control algorithm, then back to the model with the results from the controller. This is on a timer that lets me control the frequency with which the model executes, and if the timer has a period of 1s then it runs in real time. At a period of 0.01 it’s 100x real time, etc.
I have a second timer that reads the state of the simulation and updates the GUI with new graphs and indicators of the status of the simulation. By having two timers I can decouple running the simulation from updating the display (an expensive operation). I can also use the GUI to speed up the simulation to facilitate testing.
This is my first time using timers, but I’m pretty happy with how it’s working out. I’m not sure if there’s a better way to do it, but it gets the job done. It took me quite a bit of digging to figure out a way to make a GUI that lets me interact with a running process, so hopefully this post will inspire others. Is there a better way to allow users to interact with a running simulation that using timer objects?
Cheers!
Ryan
Doug,
One question about the timers: What determines the workspace that the timerfunction runs in? Is it like creating an anonymous function, where the inputs to the timer function are fixed when it is created, or is there a way to allow the timer function to update its inputs? For example, suppose I want to replace the waitbar with my own one. Instead of calling the Mywaitbar function every time through my for loop, I want to create a timer inside of Mywaitbar whose timer function is to check the calling function every 0.1 seconds and retrieve the value. How would I go about setting something like that up? Do I use an evalin inside of Mywaitbar? Is it even possible?
Thanks,
Dan
Julio,
There are stopFcnCallbacks that are run when you stop a timer. With clever use of these you should be able to accomplish what you are interested in doing. I think you are effectively trying to create a pause(timer) function.
Doug
Ryan,
It almost sounds to me like you would be better off using Simulink for the simulation you are running. With all of the time dependencies you are working with Simulink and its constant marching of time would probably be better.
Doug
Dan,
Our doc can explain this much better than I can.
http://www.mathworks.com/access/helpdesk/help/techdoc/matlab_prog/f9-39541.html#f9-42494
Doug
Doug,
I posted the following questions below in the user community, but nobody has responded…I then found this discussion…Any ideas?–>
“I am posting this to see if anybody has had similar problems
with 2007b or later (when Matlab became multithreaded)…
I execute this code in the interpretor:
>>t = timer(’Period’, 1, ‘timerfcn’, ‘disp(”hello”)’,…
‘executionmode’, ‘fixeddelay’, ‘busymode’, ‘error’);
>>start(t);
The callback occurs a few times (I say “a few” because it
could be 1, 5 or 10034, there does not seem to be any reason
to it), and the appears to get “lost”. When I query the
timer, it claims that is is running, however it has stopped
callback execution. I do a lot of process control and have
used timers quite extensively in earlier versions of MATLAB
and have never had this problem. Any ideas?
Note: When I change the number of maximum number of computational threads to 1, the timer callback seems to behave just fine…I however need to use the multiple threads in my application.”
BJ
BJ,
I think you are best served with technical support:
http://www.mathworks.com/support
They should be able to help very quickly.
Doug
Hi,
I am confused about TimerFcn. I am trying to GUI that can refresh data every second but i didn’t understand how to implement subroutine when timerFcn execute. Where and how i should write that?
thanks
@Ozzy,
There are not enough details here for me to help you. Please contact me with more specific questions, and an example of code you have tried.
-Thanks,
Doug
Hi Doug,
Like your blog! Reading this post I figured it should be possible to use a timer to monitor the size of file (with the purpose of updating a progress bar).
And indeed it works fine, except…
When I am monitoring a file that is being retrieved through ‘mget’ (== java ‘retrieveFile’).
It seems the java call halts all matlab timers… Can that be true?
Thanks,
Dennis
Dennis,
I did not know anything about this, so I sent it to Tech Support (www.mathworks.com/support)
Java does not halt MATLAB timers. Is there a reproducible example where this behavior does occur?
Doug
I sent an .m file with example to your.name at mathworks.com
Dennis
Dennis,
Please see http://www.mathworks.com/support for further help.
Thanks,
Doug